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		<title>By: einfachwissen</title>
		<link>http://neilojwilliams.net/missioncreep/2010/the-perfect-page/comment-page-1/#comment-1647</link>
		<dc:creator>einfachwissen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2010 09:35:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like the idea of auto publication based on track record. And the quality assurance checklist is really helpful, thanks for that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like the idea of auto publication based on track record. And the quality assurance checklist is really helpful, thanks for that.</p>
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		<title>By: Fantasy CMS for government</title>
		<link>http://neilojwilliams.net/missioncreep/2010/the-perfect-page/comment-page-1/#comment-1632</link>
		<dc:creator>Fantasy CMS for government</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Feb 2010 23:18:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] tell me why I&#8217;m wrong and what software can do it all already. I&#8217;ve learnt a lot from your comments on similar posts in the [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] tell me why I&#8217;m wrong and what software can do it all already. I&#8217;ve learnt a lot from your comments on similar posts in the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: John Goode</title>
		<link>http://neilojwilliams.net/missioncreep/2010/the-perfect-page/comment-page-1/#comment-1623</link>
		<dc:creator>John Goode</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Feb 2010 17:48:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Auto publication of content based on track record is perhaps a romantic rather than practical concept — humans ain&#039;t that consistant. 

That said, it&#039;s easy to achieve this in say WWF (MS) using simple rules. This would amount to measuring achievements of past acceptability rather than *learning*. Sadly, I don&#039;t think user G will fly.

Good work though, your document makes for a good check list for most organisations managing large quantities of communications and addressing many audiences.

Also enjoyed Steph Gray&#039;s proposal that .gov could one day be a collection of blogs. Money saved, relevance maxed!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Auto publication of content based on track record is perhaps a romantic rather than practical concept — humans ain&#8217;t that consistant. </p>
<p>That said, it&#8217;s easy to achieve this in say WWF (MS) using simple rules. This would amount to measuring achievements of past acceptability rather than *learning*. Sadly, I don&#8217;t think user G will fly.</p>
<p>Good work though, your document makes for a good check list for most organisations managing large quantities of communications and addressing many audiences.</p>
<p>Also enjoyed Steph Gray&#8217;s proposal that .gov could one day be a collection of blogs. Money saved, relevance maxed!</p>
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		<title>By: jQuery Modal Window &#124; WebDesignExpert.Me</title>
		<link>http://neilojwilliams.net/missioncreep/2010/the-perfect-page/comment-page-1/#comment-1573</link>
		<dc:creator>jQuery Modal Window &#124; WebDesignExpert.Me</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jan 2010 09:34:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The perfect page &#8211; quality assurance checklists for web design in PDF and excel &#8211; Link. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: PaulG</title>
		<link>http://neilojwilliams.net/missioncreep/2010/the-perfect-page/comment-page-1/#comment-1571</link>
		<dc:creator>PaulG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jan 2010 14:48:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is nothing out there that I have seen that deals with these issues.

I ran my own CMS for a local gov outfit for 10 years, and had built in much of this type of usability - and had demo&#039;d proof of concepts for other stuff besides.

All of this is possible _if_ you are designing the CMS for a vertical market.

The big vendors operate in horizontal markets - at a fundamental (framework) level the CMS will also have to be reused as base for a shoe-shop, and a dog charity, song vendor etc etc with different skins.

I don&#039;t believe the UK gov meta data space has moved on too much, its still IPSV based AFAICT, as long as you START WITH meta data, and build your CMS on/around it, all the GUI (UX) implementations are trivial by comparison.

Rarer that rocking horse dung to find an employer/client who&#039;ll buy into that POV though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is nothing out there that I have seen that deals with these issues.</p>
<p>I ran my own CMS for a local gov outfit for 10 years, and had built in much of this type of usability &#8211; and had demo&#8217;d proof of concepts for other stuff besides.</p>
<p>All of this is possible _if_ you are designing the CMS for a vertical market.</p>
<p>The big vendors operate in horizontal markets &#8211; at a fundamental (framework) level the CMS will also have to be reused as base for a shoe-shop, and a dog charity, song vendor etc etc with different skins.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t believe the UK gov meta data space has moved on too much, its still IPSV based AFAICT, as long as you START WITH meta data, and build your CMS on/around it, all the GUI (UX) implementations are trivial by comparison.</p>
<p>Rarer that rocking horse dung to find an employer/client who&#8217;ll buy into that POV though.</p>
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		<title>By: Neil Williams</title>
		<link>http://neilojwilliams.net/missioncreep/2010/the-perfect-page/comment-page-1/#comment-1570</link>
		<dc:creator>Neil Williams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jan 2010 13:12:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paul - I would love to get my hands on a workflow system that learns from previous user actions and a decent metadata suggestion tool. Do you know any products that can handle that kind of thing? I&#039;ve never seen anything that comes close to being this whizzy, but maybe I just don&#039;t know where to look. 

Cyberdoyle - thanks, we are trying! Sharing stuff publicly helps.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul &#8211; I would love to get my hands on a workflow system that learns from previous user actions and a decent metadata suggestion tool. Do you know any products that can handle that kind of thing? I&#8217;ve never seen anything that comes close to being this whizzy, but maybe I just don&#8217;t know where to look. </p>
<p>Cyberdoyle &#8211; thanks, we are trying! Sharing stuff publicly helps.</p>
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		<title>By: PaulG</title>
		<link>http://neilojwilliams.net/missioncreep/2010/the-perfect-page/comment-page-1/#comment-1568</link>
		<dc:creator>PaulG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jan 2010 20:39:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The successful application of all of these rules will depend largely upon how much your application/framework/CMS helps and guides the user through the process of creating and maintaining a document (page).

More and more tools are surfacing to help with this. You mention readability, but that is something which can be crudely measured ( Google: Flesch–Kincaid ) scored, and fed back to users.

Correct eGMS markup can be divined from the document content and suggested to users.

The process of ACL ( access control ) can be better fine tuned so that gatekeepers&#039; tasks are less onerous. 

&quot;User G has submitted another article, you have approved 90% of his past articles so unless you say otherwise this article will be automatically waived through and published in 59 minutes ..&quot;

Listing and prioritising individual items which make up a good document is one thing, policing it is another.

Good software should be helping and guiding users to to achieve this, I&#039;d turn my attention to finding that software if I were you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The successful application of all of these rules will depend largely upon how much your application/framework/CMS helps and guides the user through the process of creating and maintaining a document (page).</p>
<p>More and more tools are surfacing to help with this. You mention readability, but that is something which can be crudely measured ( Google: Flesch–Kincaid ) scored, and fed back to users.</p>
<p>Correct eGMS markup can be divined from the document content and suggested to users.</p>
<p>The process of ACL ( access control ) can be better fine tuned so that gatekeepers&#8217; tasks are less onerous. </p>
<p>&#8220;User G has submitted another article, you have approved 90% of his past articles so unless you say otherwise this article will be automatically waived through and published in 59 minutes ..&#8221;</p>
<p>Listing and prioritising individual items which make up a good document is one thing, policing it is another.</p>
<p>Good software should be helping and guiding users to to achieve this, I&#8217;d turn my attention to finding that software if I were you.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Briggs</title>
		<link>http://neilojwilliams.net/missioncreep/2010/the-perfect-page/comment-page-1/#comment-1567</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Briggs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jan 2010 20:14:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know nothing about proper websites, so can&#039;t really offer much in the way of feedback - other than it seems really sensible and straightforward stuff.

But top marks for sharing!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know nothing about proper websites, so can&#8217;t really offer much in the way of feedback &#8211; other than it seems really sensible and straightforward stuff.</p>
<p>But top marks for sharing!</p>
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		<title>By: cyberdoyle</title>
		<link>http://neilojwilliams.net/missioncreep/2010/the-perfect-page/comment-page-1/#comment-1565</link>
		<dc:creator>cyberdoyle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jan 2010 16:35:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting and starting to restore my faith in EGov... It is cool that people like you are doing this sorta stuff, especially outside work! I would always add KISS to any list. But I am not an expert so can&#039;t offer any real input, apart from good wishes and
Good luck.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting and starting to restore my faith in EGov&#8230; It is cool that people like you are doing this sorta stuff, especially outside work! I would always add KISS to any list. But I am not an expert so can&#8217;t offer any real input, apart from good wishes and<br />
Good luck.</p>
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